UW Basketball Loses At The Line

by A.J. Coltrane

The UW men’s basketball team lost to Oregon State earlier today, 86-84, damaging their chances to make the NCAA tournament.

During the game, the Huskies went 12-26 from the free throw line (42.6%). That’s bad.

By coincidence, tonight I started researching team stats in earnest, to prepare for the upcoming wagering. I figured I’d look to see what teams were terrible at free throws; maybe I’d find a hidden achilles heel.

As it turns out, the Huskies were at 61.2% on their free throws through Wednesday, ranking 329th out of 345 total teams. That’s bad bad bad.

It was only a matter of time until that bit them in the behind. Ouch!

Tony Wroten

by A.J. Coltrane

“Tony Wroten” refers to Husky freshman guard Tony Wroten. He was a highly rated recruit, and some people are very high on him so far [ESPN Insider Link]:

A number of NBA scouts and GMs now feel like Washington’s Tony Wroten(Rank: 19) might be the best NBA point guard prospect in college basketball…

and

..But Wroten is the real deal. He’s tall, has eyes in the back of his head, can get to the basket at will and, when he’s focused, he can take over a game. His second-half performance against Duke on Saturday was, at times, special. He’s still wild and tries to do too much, but it’s rare to find a player with his size doing the things he does. Said one top NBA scout, “He’s the second coming of Gary Payton.”

Emphasis mine.

The last sentence is what really got my attention.. I watched the Duke and Missouri games, and I know Wroten came in highly regarded, but still, my eyes weren’t telling me THAT. He seems like a nice young guard who’s still figuring it out. I haven’t seen “future Hall of Famer”.

Think about what Payton was — a great defensive player with good size and court vision. He was also a marginal shooter coming out of college and his shot never really developed much beyond “solid”.

The Gary Payton comment prompted me to look around a little further, and here’s a second opinion by David Thorpe (also Insider), following the Missouri/UW game:

Wroten looked for the spectacular play almost every possession rather than the easy one…

He has a terrific feel for slithering to the rim for buckets. Wroten has no idea how to play basketball, but has a great idea how to score and see the floor. Once he learns to read and think the game, his talent can grow to enormous heights…

He was not inclined to do much on defense in this game and missed some opportunities to get back on defense. I would have liked to see him handle that better…

However, he is a poor free throw shooter thanks to rushing his way through the shot as if a defender is about to come guard him.

Does that sound like Gary Payton? I’d point the phrases “no idea how to play basketball” and “not inclined to do much on defense”… One thing about Gary is that he worked hard, all the time, especially on defense… He was also really savvy and had a high basketball IQ.

Here’s the ESPN draft report card:

Projection Late First Round Pick
Positives
  • Powerful combo guard
  • Excellent court vision
  • Can be a spectacular passer
  • Powerful finisher at the basket
Negatives
  • Needs to improve his jump shot
  • Can be reckless at times
  • Questionable shot selection
  • Lacks elite athleticism or explosiveness

Wroten is even bigger than Payton was — Wroten is listed at 6’5″, 205 lbs. If he can get rid of the “reckless” then maybe he’s a point guard at the NBA level, otherwise he’ll be a tweener combo guard.

Which is useful, but it’s not Gary Payton.

At the college level though.. he could be *very* effective.

Coast to Coast – The Huskies Edition

By Blaidd Drwg

Yesterday was a good day to play for a team named the Huskies.

Huskies East Edition

You won't see these Huskies in the Big Dance next week, but they are a hell of a lot cuter than either UCONN or UDUB

Winning 5 basketball games in 5 days isn’t easy under the best of circumstances, and when you are trying to do it in the Big East Tournament, that may just be the most impressive run in College Basketball history. The 19th ranked Huskies started off the Big East Tourney as the #9 seed, which means they got to play an extra game. Of course, that game was against DePaul, the worst team in the Big East, but they still had to play it and win. Once they disposed of the Blue Demons, they then had to run this gamut (these are the national rankings of their opponents): #22 Georgetown, #3 Pitt, #11 Syracuse and #14 Louisville. Granted they did not win any of those games by more than 3 points, but I don’t care who you are, beating 4 ranked teams in 4 days is amazing to say the least. Despite the big MO in the Huskies corner, I think they are in for a letdown in the second round of the Big Dance.

Huskies West Edition
On the other coast, the Washington Huskies, teetering on the bubble and barely surviving their game against WAZZU managed to take out Arizona and win the Pac10 automatic bid. This probably moved the Huskies up to somewhere around a 7 seed in the tournament, but I can’t figure this team out – some days they play like the team that was ranked earlier in the season and some days they play like they can lose to just about anyone. It should be interesting to see whom they end up matched up against when the seedings are announced later today.

It’s No Longer An Elephant

by A.J. Coltrane

UW Washington guard Venoy Overton has been suspended for the duration of the Pac-10 tournament as a result of criminal charges:

The gross-misdemeanor charge against Overton stems from a Jan. 8 incident in which Seattle police say he met with two 16-year-old girls and took them to his sister’s apartment in South Seattle. A police report says Overton, 22, furnished the girls with alcohol and engaged in sex acts with both.

Doesn’t the “Pac-10” tournament seem just a little too convenient? It may only be one game if the Huskies lose to the Cougars in the first round. The Huskies currently are slated in the NCAA tournament as about a 9-seed. If they lose tomorrow to the Cougars it probably drops them to about a 10-seed. If the Huskies were to somehow get past (hypothetically) the WSU game, then UCLA, then Arizona… they’d be about a 7 or an 8 seed.

What difference does that make, really?

Huskies as a 10 seed would face UConn, West Virginia, or Georgetown.

Huskies as a 9 seed would face Texas A&M, Kansas St., Xavier, or Vanderbilt.

Huskies as a 7 or 8 seed would face somebody along the lines of Cincinnati, Villanova, Temple, UNLV, or Missouri.

That’s all about a wash.

If the Huskies had suspended Overton for say, 3 games, then it might have involved some of the NCAA tournament. The problem with that approach is that they’d be penalizing the other players for Overton’s [lack of common sense, lack of judgement, stupidity, what do you call that(?)] 

The point is, anything less than a supension for the remainder of the season doesn’t really impact their chances of advancing in the NCAA tournament. The suspension the Huskies selected doesn’t really do squat.

Make of this what you will:  I was in a adult beverage establishment today and I was told (by someone I believe) that Overton had been there shortly before the original charges were filed .. with two underage girls. They sat in a corner and tried to get served, but when they got carded – and the girls were found to be minors, they were all asked to leave.

I’m not entirely sure it’s appropriate to post that “rumor”, but I can say that I absolutely believe that the person who told me that story wasn’t making it up, and if I were to ask around a little more I could get other people to corroborate it.

Ick.

The Huskies Achillies

by A.J. Coltrane

The WSU Men’s Basketball team defeated UW last night, 80-69.  WSU led by as much as 21 before the Huskies pulled to within 6 points with 4:04 to go. Had the Cougars played with better fundamentals late in the second half the score would have never would have gotten that close.

I think the Cougars may have “exposed” the Huskies somewhat. 

UW’s 6’3″ guard Abdul Gaddy is out for the year with an ACL injury, suffered in early January. He had been playing 23 minutes per night, averaging 8.5 points and 3.8 assists.

Last night the Huskies distributed the guard minutes as follows:  5’9″ Isaiah Thomas, 35 minutes; 6’0″ Venoy Overton, 26 minutes; 6’5″ C.J. Wilcox, 19 minutes; 6’6″ Terrence Ross, 13 minutes. The two tall guards are both freshmen — they combined to go 1 of 11 from the floor. As for the short guards:  5’9″ and 6’0″ are both generous height estimates. I’d guess they’re really closer to 5’7″ and 5’10”.

The Huskies have been successful this season using their small guards to penetrate and either dish or score.

Here’s the Huskies Achillies Heel:

The Cougar guards measured 6’1″, 6’4″, 6’4″, and 6’6″.

A 2-3 Zone.

The Cougars played a 2-3 zone defense, packing their defenders into the paint. Their guards played an extra half-step off of UW’s quick little guards. This made it very difficult for the UW guards to penetrate, and if they attempted a 3-pointer the Cougs were able to use their relative size advantage to challenge the perimeter shots. The Huskies went 1-13 on 3-pointers in the first half — they didn’t shoot well from anywhere all night: 8-27 from 3, 15-24 from the line, and 33% overall from the floor.

If history repeats itself in the NCAA Tournament, the Huskies are going home.

Conventional Wisdom – Sweet 16

by Coltrane

Source:  ESPN Tournament Challenge.  Listed below are the odds that “America” gave each team to make the Sweet 16.

Seed, Team, Odds Rank
1 Kansas – 90.3% 1
1 Kentucky – 83.9% 2
1 Syracuse – 82.7% 3
2 West Virginia – 76.1% 4
1 Duke – 73.6% 5
2 Kansas State – 62.6% 6
2 Villanova – 58.5% 7
2 Ohio State – 46.8% 8
3 Georgetown – 41.8% 9
3 Baylor – 30.6% 10
3 Pittsburgh – 25.7% 11
3 New Mexico – 13.0% 12
5 Texas A&M – 8.7% 13
9 Louisville – 8.2% 14
4 Wisconsin – 8.0% 15
6 Notre Dame – 7.6% 16
6 Tennessee – 7.0% 17
6 Marquette – 6.7% 18
4 Purdue – 6.5% 19
4 Vanderbilt – 6.5% 20
5 Butler – 5.7% 21
5 Michigan State – 4.8% 22
7 Brigham Young – 4.6% 23
6 Xavier – 4.5% 24
4 Maryland – 3.7% 25
8 Texas – 3.5% 26
8 Gonzaga – 2.9% 27
5 Temple – 2.8% 28
7 Oklahoma State – 2.1% 29
7 Richmond – 1.8% 30
10 Georgia Tech – 1.5% 31
7 Clemson – 1.5% 32
11 Washington – 1.2% 33
11 Minnesota – 1.2% 34
10 Missouri – 1.2% 35
13 Siena – 1.1% 36
8 California – 1.1% 37
10 Florida – 1.1% 38
12 Cornell – 1.0% 39
10 Saint Mary’s – 0.9% 40
9 Florida State – 0.8% 41
12 UTEP – 0.8% 42
12 Utah State – 0.6% 43
9 Wake Forest – 0.5% 44
11 San Diego State – 0.4% 45
13 Murray State – 0.4% 46
9 Northern Iowa – 0.3% 47
11 Old Dominion – 0.3% 48
8 UNLV – 0.3% 49
15 North Texas – 0.3% 50
15 Morgan State – 0.2% 51
15 UC Santa Barbara – 0.2% 52
16 Vermont – 0.2% 53
15 Robert Morris – 0.2% 54
13 Houston – 0.2% 55
16 Lehigh – 0.2% 56
16 East Tennessee State – 0.2% 57
16 AR-Pine Bluff – 0.2% 58
14 Ohio – 0.2% 59
14 Montana – 0.2% 60
12 New Mexico State – 0.1% 61
14 Oakland – 0.1% 62
13 Wofford – 0.1% 63
14 Sam Houston State – 0.1% 64

When filling out my bracket I was looking for:

1.  Teams that had guys who could create their own shot with the shot clock running down.  This could either be a quick, slashing guard or a Wally Szerbiak equivalent.

2.  Teams with experienced guards who share the ball.  Note that this is often incompatible with the first point, above.  Some teams like Texas lack a true point guard, running  combo guards out there instead.   Generally speaking I try to avoid teams with one guy who dribbles too much.

3.   Teams with good size and length (duh).  Ideally the team will have a Tyrus Thomas type, to shut down the J.J. Reddicks of the world.

4.   Teams with a high basketball IQ.  I was looking for guys who know how to play.

Teams I liked better than everyone else:

#21 Butler – They have the Szerbiak type and they’re fundamentally sound.  Good size too.

#23 BYU – I put too much faith into the spreadsheets.  Ken Pomeroy’s stats loved them.

#25 Maryland – Another Szerbiak type in Greivis Vasquez.  This one didn’t work out either.

#31 Georgia Tech, #34 Minnesota, #41 UTEP, #42 Florida State — I liked them for the same reason I liked Baylor.  They’re big, physical teams that I thought would “eat” smaller teams.

#37 California — Pac 10 Player of the Year Jerome Randle is a small guard with a great jump shot and good quickness, he can score on anyone.  They had the misfortune of running into Duke early.

#47 Northern Iowa.  A whole team of guys who know how to play.  Good size, good shooting.  I didn’t pick them to beat Kansas either.

Teams everyone else liked more than I did:

#14 Louisville — I never watched Louisville and thought that they’d succeed when the sledding got rough.  No real team identity on offense.

#16 Notre Dame — The media picks one Great White Hope every year.  This year it was Luke Harangody.  Combined with the Big East pedigree it was no surprise that they were really overrated.  It was also no real surprise that Notre Dame played just as well when Harangody was out with an injury.

#17 Tennessee, #22 Michigan State, #26 Texas — All teams built around little combo guards who dribble too much.  It’s ok to have a *big* combo guard, but little ones can be disaster when they get a long athelete harassing them.

#20 Vanderbilt — I didn’t “get” Vanderbilt.  Nobody on that team really grabbed me.

#33 Washington — After looking totally disfunctional all year the Huskies turned it on in the tournament.  Far and away my biggest surprise.